{"id":20145,"date":"2023-01-05T11:50:00","date_gmt":"2023-01-05T08:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/?p=20145"},"modified":"2023-01-06T19:13:29","modified_gmt":"2023-01-06T16:13:29","slug":"ali-lidar-bir-siir-ekolunden-olsaydim-bu-kesinlikle-divan-edebiyati-olurdu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/2023\/01\/05\/ali-lidar-bir-siir-ekolunden-olsaydim-bu-kesinlikle-divan-edebiyati-olurdu\/","title":{"rendered":"Ali Lidar: \u201cBir \u015fiir ekol\u00fcnden olsayd\u0131m, bu kesinlikle Divan Edebiyat\u0131 olurdu\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong><em>Haber: Raziye Sayaslan<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>\u0130stanbul \u00dcniversitesi Haber Merkezi<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens M\u00fczesi\u2019nin kurucusu, \u015fair, yazar ve \u00f6\u011fretmen Ali Lidar, M\u0131zm\u0131z dergisinin ev sahipli\u011finde d\u00fczenlenen s\u00f6yle\u015fide okurlar\u0131yla bulu\u015ftu. M\u00fczenin kurulu\u015f s\u00fcreci, edebiyat anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 gibi konulara de\u011finen Lidar, \u201cEdebiyat benim ya\u015fam kayna\u011f\u0131m\u201d dedi.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens M\u00fczesi ve edebiyat \u00fczerine ger\u00e7ekle\u015fen s\u00f6yle\u015fide, Ali Lidar\u2019\u0131n ki\u015fisel hayat\u0131 ve edebiyatla olan ili\u015fkisine dair bir sohbet ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirildi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201cK\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens\u2019in her bir \u00e7evirisi farkl\u0131 \u00f6zelliktedir\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens M\u00fczesi&#8217;nin T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ve d\u00fcnyada bir ilk oldu\u011funa dikkat \u00e7eken Lidar, m\u00fczenin kurulu\u015f hik\u00e2yesini \u015f\u00f6yle anlatt\u0131: \u201cAsl\u0131nda K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens M\u00fczesi, benim bu kitab\u0131n t\u00fcm \u00e7evirilerini okumaya olan merak\u0131mla ba\u015flad\u0131. \u0130ki ayda, \u00e7e\u015fitli dillerde 20 farkl\u0131 \u00e7eviri kitap toplad\u0131m. Tabii \u00f6nceli\u011fim T\u00fcrk edebiyat\u0131nda yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f \u00e7evirileri oldu. \u015eu noktay\u0131 da belirtmek isterim: K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens\u2019i edebiyat\u0131m\u0131za ilk defa \u00e7eviren Ahmet Muhip D\u0131ranas\u2019t\u0131r. Kendisi bence edebiyat\u0131m\u0131zda \u00e7ok \u00f6ne \u00e7\u0131kamayan ama benim \u00e7ok be\u011fendi\u011fim bir \u015fair. Di\u011fer \u00e7evirilere gelecek olursak, mesela Cemal S\u00fcreya ve Tomris Uyar\u2019\u0131n K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens \u00e7evirisi daha liriktir, okurken duygulanmamak elde de\u011fildir. Oysa Azra Erhat\u2019\u0131n \u00e7evirisi didaktik ve a\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131r; okurken K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens ve Tilki\u2019nin bir \u015feyler \u00f6\u011fretme kayg\u0131s\u0131 g\u00fctt\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc fark edersiniz. Toplama i\u015fiyse yava\u015f yava\u015f geli\u015fti. Bu kitaplar\u0131 biriktirmekten zevk almaya ba\u015flad\u0131m. Koleksiyonerli\u011fe ilk ad\u0131m\u0131m da b\u00f6yle ba\u015flad\u0131. Sonras\u0131nda zaten m\u00fczeyi kurma fikri belirginle\u015fti.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201cAmac\u0131m\u0131z \u00e7ocuklara kitaplar\u0131 sevdirmek\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u00fczeye ilginin yo\u011fun oldu\u011funu belirten Lidar, m\u00fczede \u00e7ocuklarla konu\u015fmay\u0131 \u00e7ok sevdi\u011fini ve m\u00fczenin amac\u0131n\u0131n da \u00e7ocuklara K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla kitaplar\u0131 sevdirmek oldu\u011funu belirterek \u015funlar\u0131 s\u00f6yledi: \u201c\u00c7ocuklar ucuz ayr\u0131nt\u0131lara tak\u0131lm\u0131yorlar, an\u0131 ya\u015f\u0131yorlar. Buran\u0131n ka\u00e7 paraya mal oldu\u011fu veya binan\u0131n yap\u0131s\u0131 gibi teknik \u015feylerle ilgilenmiyorlar. Ama yeti\u015fkinler \u00f6yle mi, her \u015feyi tek tek sorduklar\u0131 zaman s\u0131k\u0131l\u0131yorum\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"587\" src=\"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/ali-lidar-2-1024x587.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-20146\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/ali-lidar-2-1024x587.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/ali-lidar-2-300x172.jpg 300w, https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/ali-lidar-2-768x440.jpg 768w, https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/ali-lidar-2-750x430.jpg 750w, https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/ali-lidar-2.jpg 1069w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption><em>Ali Lidar<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201c3 bin farkl\u0131 dil \u00e7evirisine ula\u015ft\u0131k\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens M\u00fczesi&#8217;nde 3 bin farkl\u0131 dil \u00e7evirisine ula\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyen Lidar, Artvin Lazcas\u0131ndan Hopa Lazcas\u0131na, Star Wars alfabesinden Elf yaz\u0131s\u0131na kadar binlerce farkl\u0131 dilde ve alfabede \u00e7evirilerinin oldu\u011funu belirtti. Bu \u00f6zelli\u011fin bir ilk oldu\u011funu kaydeden Lidar ifadelerini \u015f\u00f6yle s\u00fcrd\u00fcrd\u00fc: \u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019de her ne kadar lokal m\u00fczecilik anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 geli\u015fmese de en nihayetinde bir \u00f6rnek m\u00fczemiz var. Fakat \u015funu da belirteyim; m\u00fczemizin herhangi bir gelir kayna\u011f\u0131 yok. K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens M\u00fczesi arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131n, e\u015fin dostun, okurlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n katk\u0131lar\u0131yla ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Haliyle ard\u0131nda ciddi bir emek var. Kimi zaman m\u00fczenin duvarlar\u0131n\u0131 beraber boyad\u0131k, kimi zaman k\u00fcrat\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc \u00fcstlendik, \u0131\u015f\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 birlikte takt\u0131k. M\u00fczenin kurulmas\u0131 6 ay\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 ald\u0131.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201cGarip ak\u0131m\u0131ndan en sevdi\u011fim isim Oktay Rifat\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u00fczeyle birlikte ki\u015fisel hayat\u0131na da de\u011finen Lidar, edebiyat\u0131n hayat\u0131ndaki \u00f6nemi \u00fcst\u00fcnde durarak, \u201c\u015eu ara sevgili M\u0131zm\u0131z dergisine \u015fiir ve \u00f6yk\u00fcler yaz\u0131yorum. Ayn\u0131 zamanda bir \u00f6\u011fretmenim ve dersine girdi\u011fim bir s\u00fcr\u00fc \u00f6\u011frencim var. M\u00fczeyi, okulu, yazarl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ayn\u0131 anda y\u00fcr\u00fctmek zor olsa da ben inan\u0131lmaz bir keyif al\u0131yorum. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc edebiyat benim ya\u015fam kayna\u011f\u0131m\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lidar, kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131lardan gelen \u201cBir \u015fiir ekol\u00fcne mensup olsayd\u0131n\u0131z bu hangisi olurdu\u201d sorusunu da \u015f\u00f6yle yan\u0131tlad\u0131: \u201cBir \u015fiir ekol\u00fcnden olsayd\u0131m bu kesinlikle Divan Edebiyat\u0131 olurdu. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn, sembolizm, Osmanl\u0131 T\u00fcrk\u00e7esi; sanat dili Fars\u00e7a ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7emizin m\u00fckemmel bir harmonisi. Nedim\u2019in \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131, Baki\u2019nin ho\u015f sadalar\u0131, Fuzuli\u2019nin mesnevileri\u2026 Her biri ince ince i\u015flenen bir dizeler b\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fc. Bana d\u00f6necek olursak, ben gazel okumay\u0131 ve kaside yazmay\u0131 \u00e7ok seviyorum. Bunun yan\u0131nda Cumhuriyet d\u00f6nemi \u015fiirlerine de hayran\u0131m. En sevdi\u011fim isim de Garip ak\u0131m\u0131ndan Oktay Rifat. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc d\u00fcmd\u00fcz bir insan o da benim gibi. Oktay Rifat ne Orhan Veli gibi pop\u00fclerdi, ne de Melih Cevdet gibi aristokrat bir cenaha mensuptu. D\u00fcmd\u00fcz bir memurdu ve \u00f6yle de ya\u015fad\u0131. Ancak \u015funa eminim ki aralar\u0131nda en yetenekli \u015fair de oydu. Yal\u0131n bir dil ve duru bir T\u00fcrk\u00e7e. Bazen d\u00fcz insan olmak iyidir.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Haber: Raziye Sayaslan \u0130stanbul \u00dcniversitesi Haber Merkezi K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens M\u00fczesi\u2019nin kurucusu, \u015fair, yazar ve \u00f6\u011fretmen Ali Lidar, M\u0131zm\u0131z dergisinin ev sahipli\u011finde d\u00fczenlenen s\u00f6yle\u015fide okurlar\u0131yla bulu\u015ftu. M\u00fczenin kurulu\u015f s\u00fcreci, edebiyat anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 gibi konulara de\u011finen Lidar, \u201cEdebiyat benim ya\u015fam kayna\u011f\u0131m\u201d dedi. K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck Prens M\u00fczesi ve edebiyat \u00fczerine ger\u00e7ekle\u015fen s\u00f6yle\u015fide, Ali Lidar\u2019\u0131n ki\u015fisel hayat\u0131 ve edebiyatla olan ili\u015fkisine [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":20148,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jnews-multi-image_gallery":[],"jnews_single_post":{"subtitle":"","format":"standard","video":"","gallery":"","source_name":"","source_url":"","via_name":"","via_url":"","override_template":"0","override":[{"template":"1","single_blog_custom":"","parallax":"1","fullscreen":"1","layout":"double-sidebar","sidebar":"single-left","second_sidebar":"default-sidebar","sticky_sidebar":"1","share_position":"top","share_float_style":"share-monocrhome","show_share_counter":"1","show_view_counter":"1","show_featured":"1","show_post_meta":"1","show_post_author":"1","show_post_author_image":"1","show_post_date":"1","post_date_format":"default","post_date_format_custom":"Y\/m\/d","show_post_category":"1","show_post_reading_time":"0","post_reading_time_wpm":"300","show_zoom_button":"0","zoom_button_out_step":"2","zoom_button_in_step":"3","show_post_tag":"1","show_prev_next_post":"1","show_popup_post":"1","number_popup_post":"1","show_author_box":"0","show_post_related":"0","show_inline_post_related":"1"}],"override_image_size":"0","image_override":[{"single_post_thumbnail_size":"crop-500","single_post_gallery_size":"crop-500"}],"trending_post":"0","trending_post_position":"meta","trending_post_label":"Trending","sponsored_post":"0","sponsored_post_label":"Sponsored by","sponsored_post_name":"","sponsored_post_url":"","sponsored_post_logo_enable":"0","sponsored_post_logo":"","sponsored_post_desc":"","disable_ad":"0"},"jnews_primary_category":{"id":""},"jnews_social_meta":{"fb_title":"","fb_description":"","fb_image":"","twitter_title":"","twitter_description":"","twitter_image":""},"jnews_override_counter":{"override_view_counter":"0","view_counter_number":"0","override_share_counter":"0","share_counter_number":"0","override_like_counter":"0","like_counter_number":"0","override_dislike_counter":"0","dislike_counter_number":"0"},"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,2085],"tags":[2504,2507,2505,2506],"class_list":["post-20145","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-kultur-sanat","category-manset-haber","tag-ali-lidar","tag-ali-lidar-edebiyat","tag-ali-lidar-kucuk-prens-muzesi","tag-kucuk-prens-muzesi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20145","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=20145"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20145\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/20148"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=20145"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=20145"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iletim.istanbul.edu.tr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=20145"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}